----- Original Message -----

From: Jillaine Thomas

To: paeara@ihug.co.nz

Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:21 PM

Subject: Re: Email from www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com

Hi "Anonymous"

You appear to take what you want from text and turn it into what you want to hear. If your words were as valid as you claim, why the secrecy. I don't quite understand that. You're quite open to slander other individuals but lay claim that it not necessary to name yourself. Strange.
As for calling Pita "pitiful etc". I didn't do that at all. I was saying that it was pitiful that you lay target to a man "because" he wasn't born Maori and yet he strives to fight for Maori. I may have read you wrong but the implication in what you wrote (and it is in the discussion threads for your perusal) is that a person born white into a Maori family has no credibility. I think you'll find as you look around you that, that is such a farce and detrimental to our future 'mostly quite white' children.
Within the discussion threads there was also an invitation for you and those you represent to attend Trust meetings.. general meetings open to all. It seems you opted not to but I'm sure why, you didn't explain that.

My only protest is the manner in which you openly attack, disparage rather than engage in healthy debate about the way forward. You're a traveled and learned person as you say, you should know that most people let alone Maori won't take anyone seriously that whispers behind anonymous email names. Would you take anyone seriously if they refused to identify themselves. I don't quite understand, if there is so much at stake for you and for Taemaro people generally as you say, then doesn't it make sense to say it out loud and in person to those that "apparently" aren't representing you appropriately? Seriously, have you gained anything by being adversarial? Probably not. Then does it not make sense to find another more collaborative way to achieve the desired outcomes that you iwi deserve?

I don't disagree with the purpse of your cause. I absolutely support equal respresentation in any issue. I disagree with your methods and disrepectful manner in which you carry yourself. Find a smarter and more mature way to dialogue.
What am I doing? Raising the next generation and the one beyond, in a healthy and educated way so that they may engage without intimidation and anger. I also work in Mental Health hoping that one day our people will get smarter about the way in which they treat each other and hopefully reduce the statistics of suicide, violence and imprisonment of our kids. You know, being nasty is learned behaviour and it can be unlearned too.

Regards

Jillaine Thomas

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:49 PM, <paeara@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

Hi Jillaine,

I'm not sure that you understand what this website is for, it was launched because the NKKWTB refused to answer any of my questions. If you read the emails between myself and the NKKWTB, in particular the chairperson, you can judge for yourself. I have nothing to prove to you I've simply provided this non-judgemental, non-religious and non-political website for open discussion.

What you don't seem to understand is that the opinions expressed in the discussion thread are not all mine, I identify myself as paeara@ihug.co.nz when I have something to say, others identify themselves as well; such as Marie Paul, Tim Blackheart and Peter (Hohepa) Joseph; however most don't wish to identify themselves and represent their comments as "Anonymous".
e.g
Re: Ngati Aukiwa is fighting for their land
Submitted by Anonymous on 25 December 2007 - 2:23am.

As for your reference in the discussion threads which refer to Pita Pangaru being pitiful and disrespectful I can't find those specific words; however please correct me.

As for Pita Pangari; I've emailed and phoned him a number of times but he has never bothered to call or email me back. Every hui I attend he doesn't turn up to; personally I find it a problem when someone who claims to represent my interest refuses to talk to me; this isn't just Pita it is the entire trust board. You try asking them a question about how they work, how they are voted in, how their accounts are audited etc; if you get anything of sustance from them I'm more than happy to publish it on this website.

I have thanked Pita Pangari for all of his work to date however what Pita fails to understand is that he doesn't represent the majoity anymore; please read Marie Paul's comment in the discussion threads; she was one of his greatest supporters and believed what he told her; however now she no longer supports him; these aren't my word they are Maire Paul's. Additionally, there were over 200 protestors at Taemaro all of whom didn't agree with Pita Pangari's deal with the government. The problem I have is that Pita Pangari and the trust board don't listen to their on iwi.

As for being pathetic; I've created this website; I've challenged Pita Pangari because I don't like the way he operates and mis-represents himself and my iwi; I am channelling my energies for the wider cause; what are you doing?

Regards, Paeara Family

----- Original Message ----- From: <jillaine.thomas@gmail.com>
To: <paeara@ihug.co.nz>
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 8:54 PM
Subject: Email from www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com

Email from www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com
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Name: Jillaine Thomas
Message: Your end of the discussion thread re: Pita Pangaru was pitiful and disrespectful. Contrary to your website claim you are judgmental and quite rude. Peter may have been adopted (eons ago) but you miss the point completely. Peter stayed and challenged the government when you and I were off elsewhere doing whatever. Now you want to trash him for giving a shit about Maori today and tomorrow. You\'re pathetic to yourself and to the rest of us who recognise that we didn\'t have the strength to stay and challenge when we probably should have.
Channel your energies where they\'re best utilised for the wider cause or do what you do best and just whinge.
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