Ngati Aukiwa is fighting for their land
The Crown and Kahukuraariki Trust Board have signed an Agreement in Principle to settle the historical Treaty of Waitangi claims of Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa. The settlement offer includes acknowledgments of, and a Crown apology for, the Crown's historical breaches of the Treaty of Waitangi and its principles, and the return of eleven Crown-owned sites of cultural and historical significance, including Stony Creek Station and the adjacent Thomson and Clarke Blocks, and the Stony Creek stock and plant. [ Government Press Release ]
When Michael Cullen, the Minister in Charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, arrived for the singing at Taemaro Bay, on the Far North's east coast, on Saturday (22nd Dec.), he had to be protected from angry protesters after being verbally abused and jostled.
A spokesperson for Ngati Aukiwa who oppose the agreement, Wilfred Petersen jnr, said most of the about 200 people at the beach were against the arrangement. "We didn't want them signing it on our land." He said the Ngati Aukiwa opponents' position had not changed and it would continue to press its own claims to reclaim Stony Creek station and whenua for its hapu. Ngati Aukiwa have been opposing Office of Treaty Settlements (OTS) negotiations with the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust Board. Ngati Aukiwa, who claim ancestral ownership of the property, do not recognise any trust board authority to negotiate with the Crown through OTS over the future of Stony Creek.
Links: Ngati Aukiwa | Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa | Cullen forced to flee signing by angry mob (NZ Herald)
There have been numerous occupations and protests in recent years by Ngati Aukiwa:
- In November 2003, four people were charged after five kilometres of fence line had been destroyed at Stony Creek.
- A 49-day occupation started on 23rd December 2004. A group of up to 50 people occupied the Stony Creek sheep and cattle station because they dispute the Maori trust board Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa's negotiating mandate and opposes the inclusion of their claims in negotiations with the Crown. The occupation ended when police evicted the group and arrested two people, Mr Roha and kaumatua Wilfred Petersen snr, on charges of trespass. The charges were later dismissed by a judge in the Kaitaia District Court who said he was not satisfied police had proper authority to evict the occupiers.
- On 15th December 2005, about 40 members of the Ngati Aukiwa hapu went to the 2275ha Stony Creek Station and erected signs, one of which proclaims hapu ownership of the property. Hapu spokesman Tamati Roha said the sheep and cattle were to be trucked away. The stock would be given away if necessary because the hapu was interested only in the land.
- On 16th October 2006, eight members of Ngati Aukiwa hapu were arrested as they walked up a driveway to the entrance of the manager's residence of Stony Creek Station. They were part of a group of 25 hapu members who had gathered outside the 2275ha property to face about 20 police and 12 police vehicles, parked to block off the two main entrances. All those arrested, six men and two women, were charged with trespass and taken to Kaitaia police station for processing.
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to the protesters ,you ungrateful sods,what more do you want
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Hey
Thanks to the IMC editors for cleaning up the story from the post this morning..it was just too good to pass it up, but I didn't have time to do a write up.
I think that the protest was awesome. As more people raise their voices against the crown-imposed one-size-fits-all settlement process, the closer the possibility of tino rangatiratanga becomes.
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you bastards!!!
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TAUTOKO Kia Kaha Ngati Aukiwa
Re: Ngati Aukiwa is fighting for their land
ae, Tautoko mo tenei hoki.
Open ur eyes to everyones hurt I say. If the mamae is addressed it will continue to fester. Open the korero up.
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not addressed... : ) ...sorry
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you orrible lot!!
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Ae, tautoko ki Ngati Aukiwa, kia kaha e te iwi nei.
How's this for a radical idea?
Let the minister go cap in hand to the Station leaseholders, compensate them for their loss of livelihood, and then GIVE THE LAND BACK, since we all know that shipping livestock or refrigerated meat out of NZ is going to be an unsustainable business within a decade... pay attention to the oilshock, Cullen!
Letting Hapu & Iwi decide how to sustainably manage land in order to be self-sustaining might just work, if the Government ever got used to the idea of allowing citizens some ability to have a real say in community self-governance.
HONOUR the Treaty, rather than this shabby proceedings which brings shame on all in Aotearoa.
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It is not their land, they are more scots than they are Moari - hence the claim is for want of a better expression: a crock of shit..
Go back to the system of: if you don't work you don't eat---
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"HONOUR the Treaty"
The Treaty was never honoured from its first signing till now...and that also includes the english version.
Re: revolution
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The so-called system will never admit to its massive failure all over time, it's eternal.
It has crippled people to the knees, made them redundant and depended, then it tells them to get a job? It's propaganda machine is twisted and foul it smells like a dead feminist...
krap!
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Tenei te mihi ana kia koutou te hapu o Ngati Kuri me Ngati Aukiwa.
Be very careful what you ses do,(to and with) our whenua,as our Tupuna s blood flows within this whenua and as some of us still hold the mana to our whenua,be very aware,as what you do (without our knowledge)will be the raru raru you bring apond yourselves. The manawairua o nga manatangata o nga Tupuna still flows strong in our whenua
Kia Ora Koutou Ngati Aukiwa
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Yeh:look who is boring,fix boring what????????
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You created it,you fix it
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i dont like your whanau
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What makes you think you're unique. I wonder if the petersons give a stuff as far as you are concerned. I think not.
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Kia ora koutou Aotearoa Greetings for the New Year 2008
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and people wonder why we are buggering off to Aussie there is a large % of maori going there as well most decent New Zealanders want the treaty honoured but Maori can't get there shit together even in the Hapu take what you have negotited then help raise the min wage and help get more teachers in front of students that will get rid of most of the problems maori say they have
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"raise the min wage and help get more teachers in front of students that will get rid of most of the problems maori say they have"
Soooo our problems is that we are moneyless dumbfucks?
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Big ups to the Ngati Aukiwa protestors. It ain't easy going against the crown and capitalists who rob people of their land and mana. It's even harder when those people are whanau.
We've waited this long, what's another few years? Don't believe the greedy who want it all sorted unfairly in a rush.
Like the person said... open up the korero, find the real problem and its solution, or the wound will fester and burn forever.
As for that scots argument... why do you think there are scots here in the first place? same old government and rich folks pushing you off the land. Fight those with too much power not those with none. That's what they want us to do so we keep squabbling and they keep ruling.
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AR activists and their supporters are pyromanias because they celebrate fire bombing and arsonists. See www.indymedia.org.nz/newswire/display/74086/index.php for proof!!!!!
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Intersting, huh?
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These animal rights people are weird. Take the director of Safe for example. He has such a twisted view on the world that he thinks that Christchurch is a city of hate. See www.indymedia.org.nz/feature/display/71693/index.php for proof.
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""" to the protesters ,you ungrateful sods,what more do you want"""" Helen Clark shot dead?
all pommified crap( Crown types) exit nearest port permanently?
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Maybe she should do that herself,seeing the shit that comes out of her mouth is the shit that doe damage to this country and its people
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It is world reknown that the white race is and has be very dominent in taking over the world and making it known to one class of people eg[the white mans way]very much as what the pakeha are and trying to do here[our choices of life and the way we would prefer to live it]is non exceptable in the eyes of the pakeha,because they want to dominate\control our choice
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so lets Us and the world,make them pay the price for what they intend to do to us.You treat us that way,it is only deserving that we treat you the same
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These so call pakeha,that try to act and say that they have this counties best interest in hand is all bullshit,because they don't care a stuff about what happens to this country or its people and even the future of this country,as they are only try to make their asses look good in the eye s of the process,that they have to comply to,to be exceptable in the eyes of the world, these prick are only looking after their own asses
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I will tell you where to take your pig crap and put it. Again this is the shit created by the whiteman
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capitalism doesn't tolerate people to find other ways to live.
have a commune out of the city and they'll turn a blind eye but if you do it in a way that gets attention or in the city amid the masses their forces will kick your door in and stop your experiment in living differently than the norm. the norm is enforced.
capitalism relies on ignorance. the main threat to capitalism is when people discover that capitalism in any form is not the best of all possible worlds and that there are many different ways of arranging life.
they fear our taking the reigns of our own lives from them. they fear and oppose our choosing for ourselves how we wish to live when it differs from the wage slavery they need from us.
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I live in Kaikohe my mums whakapapa links me to both trust boards, infact all members of both trusts carry the same whakapapa I have tride many times prior to this to make contact with the mandated negotiators, by going up for meetings (that don't happen) by trying to contact via phone, email even to Office of Treaty Setlements 'no-'JOY' I wanted to see and consider the settlement for myself and my whanau
After the signing in princple I was finally able to have a look, it is very scarey, what is being given back? and to whom? Kahukuraariki have full right to lease knowing that Crown have a 50% right of money, the land wasn't settled it was gifted and finally, (some)land title has already been determined fee simple, and what whanau, organisations anywhere in NZ have government departments involved with their interests. My final coment, why have Ngati Aukiwa whanau been termed protestors, angry mob instead of seeing us as concerned benificiares to the signing and how many were there to tautoko I ask
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How many were at the signing to tautoko, can the Kahukuraariki trust board give numbers of members attending there fine day
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There were the six board members; three politians; Pita Pangari+mates (Shane Jones; son etc) and three police officers. Ella Henry wasn't there; to busy giving advice I guess; mind you that didn't stop her from commenting. Apparently the 200+ protestors were nothing more than disenfranchised youth. Perhaps Ella should open her eyes and ears and use them more than her mouth.
On the other side all you had was 200+ protestors. The government (OTS) is still up to it's old tricks of anyone can claim anything if it fits in with what the government wants. You can always find greedy people to sign.
We've been fighting this since before 1841 and I guess we'll be fighting it for another 160+ years.
Photos of Taemaro Bay and Mr Cullen
Photos of Mr Cullen leaving


Photos of Mr Cullen leaving
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oh dear.not a bright lot are we!
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My Tupuna Hemi rua Paera will never let this agreement go thru Take note Peter Pangari and Shane Jones your days are numbered
occupations of farm block houses
Tena koutou
I take it that these are actions designed to provoke the Crown and or the trustboard and the rest of the iwi. However,when all parties are reconciled I take it the occupiers will simply leave the houses and return to their own whare!
illegal wood felling on the farm
Kia ora koutou
I take it this too is an action designed to provoke. By the way can anyone tell me how much money we all made from this little deal?Just so we can we can keep the books straight aye! When this raruraru is finally settled all the people will know the amount and we can then thank the individuals concerned for their creative enterpise.
The AIP agreement.
Kia ora koutou
the signing of the Agreement in Principle on 22 December 2007 is the most significant action taken since our rangatira kaumatua kuia me nga tamariki hoki o era ra, first sent letters of protest to the Government beginning last century.
That we now have the extended Petersen whanau along with some other individuals, dissent from this view causes deep concern to most of us. We are whanaunga after all.However it must be made clear to everybody that though the Petersen whanau are significant in mana and number they do not make up the hapu of Ngati au Kiwi.Let it be clearly stated here the greater number of this hapu do not support the view held by the Petersen whanau.i.e that those iwi not connected to Waimahana and/or Taimaro via whakapapa have no entitlement to the land in question.This is at the core of all our raruraru.
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Kia ora
The Petersen whanau and their supporters do not make up the hapu of Ngati Aukiwa!
Far greater numbers of this hapu oppose the'Petersen and co' view and stand firmly alongside the iwi.
The core of this raruraru is simple. The Petersen and Co' view is that only those whanaunga who whakapapa to Waimahana and /or Taemaro get to share the land in question.The rest of the iwi can "Take a hike"
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Tena koutou
please name the descendants of Ngati Aukiwa who make up the 'working party'or should I say the'lurking party'Dont be whakama now!
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Kia ora youse fullas youse still dere Hey dem drums dey rappin again all over da rohe Waitarukians dey got cool reception man Dey say da Queen was a rock band dat be true? and little Wilfred he be a frog dA faxx are cruel man cruel
stay cool Akatararians
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Re Ngati Aukiwa working party.
who are the uri and from whom do you descend?
Are you all uri whakaheke from Paeara and are you from the male lines or the female lines?
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And further lets take a closer look at what is being said by the Petersen whanau and their individual supporters.They call themselves the hapu of Ngati Aukiwa.They are simply one whanau who belong to this hapu albeit an extended one.But there are significant and larger whanau of this hapu that do not and will not support their views.These others make up the larger number who are Ngati Aukiwa and we stand firmly beside the iwi.To the younger ones of the Petersen whanau may I say it takes enormous courage to publicly oppose your kaumatua and kuia especially given the ill-health of your elders but do try to get them to think about the future of yourselves and their precious mokopuna. Be brave and remind them that this raruraru can only end in bitterness and heartbreak for those they have decreed must carry their burden into the future.
Let us leave the past behind us and move forward together now.
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Ko te iwi kotahi tatou!
KO te iwi o Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa
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Looking ahead
A marae is definitely is needed for Taemaro.What about all the hapu that make up our iwi help our whanau out who live there to build one. Where is the money going to come from?What about the Catholic Church being approached [for some funding]It seems they played no small part in moving the iwi to Waitaruke why not help us move back.
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Me whakamaumahara koutou o whanaunga i runga o te Poari o Kahukuraariki a ratou mahi mo te iwi katoa.
Me mohio koutou o mahi i Taemaro o te 22nd December kei kino nui e ra mahi me nga korero ano. Ka nui te whakama o tenei kuia i o koutou mahi.
Kei te poouri tonu ahau.
Ae pea i kite mai a Paeara kia koutou ma i tera ra. Me mohio kei te pakaru koutou ma i tana ngakau.
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Kia koutou te iwi o Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa!
E TU! E TU!E TU!
Re: Ngati Aukiwa is fighting for their land
Te iwi o Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa!
Te mea nui
HE TANGATA! HE TANGATA! HE TANGATA!
Kahore ke
he whenua! he whenua! he whenu
kahore ke
he whenua he whenua he whenua
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Your ancestral ownership korero is a load of rubbish! Read Michael Kings 'History of New Zealand'
One thing you are right about nobody speaks for your whanau and life goes on without you all.
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Its a wonder Wilfred the people you work for [Telecom] dont comment on your outside activities!It certainly doesnt enhance them any.
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Question: Elizabeth Petersen are you from Waimahana and or Taemaro and are you Ngati Aukiwa?
Answer:No on both counts.
You are from Taupo Bay therefore you are Ngati Rua.There is so much needed to be done at your marae why dont you go and sort it all out down your way.
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Michael Petersen. Just because you rode horses on the station when you were a youngster does not give you ownership of it.Just because you live on it does not give you any greater rights than the rest of use either.
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Wilfred Petersen Snr.[Bully]
To coin a phrase, have you or any of your whanau and supporters stopped to think:
What can I do for my iwi rather than, what can my iwi do for me?
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Hillary Thomas.
You call yourself Tamati Roha. What a joke!Your grandfather would 'kick your arse'to hear you carrying his name around and dragging it through the mud like you do.Your father Te Wano would have made you stand in the corner all day looking at the wall!
Grow up you poser!
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Missy Petersen.That trustee hung you out to dry at Waitaruke when she got up and challenged your bullshit and so did Davey Henare.Good on them I reckon.And like that other one said ...lets rattle your marbles...It made my day that hui did I laughed all the way home to Waimahana.
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Lets get it right Celia Robinson got up and said one kaumatua asked her to be the 'eyes and ears' not 'the mouth' for Waimahana marae on the trust board, Thelma Day didnt say anything..(typical, probably have to consult with Ella) and David Henare said he didnt speak on behalf of Puhi O Te Waka Marae (Waimahana) and didint disbute the allegation made that the Waimahana Marae trustees to the Ngatikahu Ki Whangaroa Trust Board were elected at a private residence not at Waimahana Marae. R you a bit simple or were you at another meeting....
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come on trust board and their supporters, give it up, aukiwa hapu arent gona let you rip them off.. the original claimants for claim Wai 116 Stony Creek Station was Taemaro/Waimahana kaumatua, all these other marae that have jumped on board did so because Doug Graham Minister of Treaty Negotiations at the time, said too much land to give back to one hapu Taemaro/Waimahana (Ngati Aukiwa Hapu) now the hapu that own the land are outnumbered by the neighbouring marae who all want a piece of the pie.. Trust board marae should be ashamed of themselves..
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The lies are gradually being uncovered, these people who negotiated deals not authorised by the marae they proport to represent.. how much has the Ngatikahu Ki Whangaroa Trust Board received from government funding? $200,000 at least. It would be good to see the matter heard in court, I do know for certain that the Ngati Aukiwa Hapu (represented by persons elected at Waimahana Marae hui, yep petersons, but there are also rohas, smiths, larkins, tepanias, ruhi, mundays, daltons, and the list goes on) have not received any treaty funding. All these people go to the marae to make hapu decisions not private residences, so wake up trust board admit you stuffed up and step down and let aukiwa have its land and go research your own
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i just wanted you all to know AUKIWA OCCUPY ALL THE STATION HOUSES to the Trust Board tough bikkies and yep it feels great..
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in your attempt to disqualify Elizabeth Peterson, how then do you qualify the lawyer and his whanau voting at a mandate hui in Waitaruke, or are they descendants of aukiwa waimahana/taemaro. korero mai.This also raises the question of every other non descendant of aukiwa resolving issues on their behalf.
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The Elizabeth Peterson comment that she is not Ngati Aukiwa is correct.Ask her.
The rest of your statement is lost in translation
Please clarify.
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Kia ora Whare Jumpers!Dont forget to keep the houses tidy mow the lawns and keep the gardens weed-free.Remember to leave your footwear outside and wash your hands before meals.Try to smile as you go about your business. Be polite to all visitors. Thank you.
The Landlord.
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The Wai 116 claim began with kaumatua Teddy Emery passing on his knowledge of 'the lost lands' to Pita Pangari. After much research Pita then took the claim forward to the Waitangi Tribunal with legal counsel Richard Hawk assisting.There, the claim was recognised as genuine and a number Wai 116 was allocated to it.On all legal documents since that numbeer is attached when speaking of 'the lost lands' Of note Bully Peterson and Percy Tatai did not enter those discussions until at least ten years after Teddy Emery first spoke to Pita Pangari about 'the lost lands'These are the lands now being returned to our iwi should we vote Yes for settlement.
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The Wai 116 claim began with kaumatua Teddy Emery passing on his knowledge of 'the lost lands' to Pita Pangari. After much research Pita then took the claim forward to the Waitangi Tribunal with legal counsel Richard Hawk assisting.There, the claim was recognised as genuine and a number Wai 116 was allocated to it.On all legal documents since that numbeer is attached when speaking of 'the lost lands' Of note Bully Peterson and Percy Tatai did not enter those discussions until at least ten years after Teddy Emery first spoke to Pita Pangari about 'the lost lands'These are the lands now being returned to our iwi should we vote Yes for settlement.
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Please contact the Office of Treaty Settlements in Wellington for the precise funding amount that has been given to the Board. All is accounted for and will stand any legal scrutiny.
Of course your whanau and supporters do not receive any treaty funding because you do not have a mandate from the Government to operate on behalf of all the iwi.You speak only for yourselves.But tell me how would you sort this out? Through respectful dialogue or simply yelling at others who dont hold your views.Korero mai.
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Rider to previous comment.
Kia ora whanaunga
It is correct that you dont receive any treaty funding from the Trustboard nor does any other of our marae unless of course we use them for hui then we give a koha. Primarly the funding is for things like the running of the Mangonui Office, payment of staff who man it,electricity phone office product postage etc.
It is not cheap to run an office ask around.
You do not permit us to use the marae at Waimahana so we never go there even though you dont own it, we would rather not have an unseemly row about it.
So we hold hui at other places most often Waitaruke.
Also once a month trustees are paid petrol money to attend hui,the amounts vary it depends on where one lives and how far one needs to travel e.g Kawerau to Waitaruke.And it just covers the cost of running a car believe me.You know what petrol costs are like so, you wont get rich sitting on this board thats for sure.
If you would like to see a regular monthly financial spreadsheet of the board I m sure it can be arranged.
Have a great day whanaunga.
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Trust board accountability what a joke... Taemaro trustees havent had a meeting with the Taemaro people for at least 3 years, so called Waimahana Marae trustees report to a private residence only and the lawyer for the trust board wants any dissenters (whanau that dont agree with Trust Board decisions) kept out altogether... read the minutes and reports
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Kia ora whanaunga
Please direct me to where I can get the minutes and reports to which you refer.
I will of course pass on your comments to the Taemaro and Waimahana trustees Im sure they wont mind me mentioning their names.
Sandra HeiHei _ Taemaro
Alec Aperahama
Thelma Day - Waimahana
Celia Robinson
They are all lovely people,intelligent and very kind an absolute asset to their hapu and the iwi as a whole.
Mihi mai whanaunga.
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Can you please send any financial spreadsheets, statements and minutes to paeara@ihug.co.nz?
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Can anyone explain why the Taemaro (Sandra) and Waimahana (Thelma) trustees report to a private residence rather than their own marae?
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The Wai 116 claim began with kaumatua Teddy Emery, true, but he did'nt pass on his knowledge of 'the lost lands' to Pita Pangari, Pita Pangari stole them. Teddy Emery would be ashamed of what Pita Pangari has negotiated for our hapu, and anyone that would vote yes to the governments offer needs their head examined. Call yourselves descendants of Kahukuraariki!
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Can someone please send me the financial spreadsheets, statements, minutes etc to paeara@ihug.co.nz?
I've contacted the Office of Treaty Settlements in Wellington for the precise funding amount and details but they won't release any details to me. Can someone on the board request these details and send them to me?
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Kia ora whanaunga,minutes of last TB hui February 16 will be sent asap as will financial report for dec/jan/ 07/08.
I am unsure why OTS have not been more forthcoming re your request. They are required
[in law]to help you. Be specific in your requirements.
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Have you ever stopped to think why Teddy Emery didnt talk to Bully Peterson and Co about the history of our whenua?As we all know he chose instead to speak with Pita Pangari.Go figure.
What did Teddy know that we dont know of Bully Peterson,Michael Peterson and Co?Did he foresee their greed overrriding everything,that they would ruin the iwi if necessary to have their way.Just look around you today.
The iwi must stand up to this terrible behaviour of 'one of our own'and not permit it to go for much longer.
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Who told you Teddy Emery chose to speak with Pita Pangari? Pita Pangari, go figure.
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Roka did.[Teddys sister to you} Go figure.
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to paeara@ihug.co.nz
We know who you are!
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There is so much needed to be done at your marae why dont you go and sort it all out down your way.
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Who is paeara (at) ihug.co.nz?
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Hi; paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here! I never got those financial reports for dec/jan/ 07/08. Can someone please send them to me?
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So if you know who I am then that's good!
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yeah you guys posted the AIP photos on this website.And how close is your whanau to Paeara anyway? If I were you I wouldnt be demanding anything of Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa I would instead live out my days quietly in Taemaro and enjoy the company of others who are better informed.
Noho ora mai tauiwi!
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Hi it's paeara@ihug.co.nz here!
Firstly; so what if someone posted the AIP photos on this website? Are you ashamed of your iwi fighting for what has been stolen from them?
Secondly, my whanau are direct descendants of Paeara. What about yours?
Thirdly, am I wrong to think that the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust Board represents the entire iwi including Taemaro? If so; why shouldn't I demand things from them? Aren't they a Trust Board? Don't they have a legal responsibility to keep their members informed? I've been asking the Trust Board simple questions since January 2008; but they refuse to response in a civil manner. I don't know why; but it doesn't look good.
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Me mohio koe a 'Paeara@ihug.co.nz' kei te titiro tonu te iwi kia koe me o tuhituhi hoki.
Ano to ahua hoki kia matou nei kei te ahuaatua ke. Mo te aha?
Ano mehemea e pa ana to whanau kia Paeara ae marika anaianei me tika hoki o tuhituhi me to ahua hoki
Nga mahi o Te Poari o Kahukuraariki kei te pakeke tonu.Me haere mai koe ki nga hui o te Poari i reira me tu koe, ka kite te katoa ia koe, korero mai kia matou aha ke o hiahia, kaua e tu mai i muri o te kuaha e korero ana koe kia koe ano!
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Unfortunitely my Maori is not good enough to fully appreciate what you are saying. Could you please help me by repeating what you are saying in English?
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Ae pea ko tae mai te ra me ako koe i te reo.
[Perhaps the day has arrived for you to begin to learn the language]
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Perhaps you could help me learn by repeating what you said in English?
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Kahore.
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It's a shame you're not willing to converse in English. I guess as long as we fight amongst ourselves OTS and the government will continue to take our land and people.
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Can someone please send me any financial spreadsheets, statements, minutes etc to paeara (at) ihug.co.nz?
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You are the Kelly family[Hazel Williams crew] of Taemaro.
You dont have the guts to stand up and publicly affirm who you are so I will do it for you.
You say you are uri of Paeara what a joke you're distant on a good day.[Your grandfather Teddys dad was from the Waikato] Genuine uri o Paeara would never do what your'e doing right now which is playing pathetic games with the iwi.
We know your game its dumb so go away tauiwi.
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They might shut up now. I dont want anything to do with pie in the sky whanaunga that behave the way they do.Shame on you the Kelly family[Hazel Williams] of Taemaro.
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You must be worried if you have to attack true maori like this? What are you scared of? That all of our efforts will finally expose you for what you are? I haven't even started; so enjoy your 5 minutes in the sun.
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Hi it's paeara@ihug.co.nz here!
Wow! So much love going on here. Isn't it great being a maori Ella?
So; are you ashamed of your iwi fighting for what has been stolen from them? We should be fighting the theiving government not each other.
I am a direct descendant of Paeara; I suggest you stop reading Pita's story book. My uncle Teddy would be ashamed of you questioning his kaumatua status.
Am I wrong to think that the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust Board represents the entire iwi including Taemaro? If so; why shouldn't I demand things from them? Aren't they a Trust Board? Don't they have a legal responsibility to keep their members informed? I've been asking the Trust Board simple questions since January 2008; but they refuse to response in a civil manner. I don't know why; but it doesn't look good.
All my love, Paeara Family
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Its a wonder Manaaki the people you work for [CMDHB] dont comment on your outside activities!It certainly doesnt enhance them any.
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Re: "oh dear.not a bright lot are we!"
Very inciteful; can you please explain? Otherwise isn't your comment an oxymoron.
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True Maori?You Kellys believe your own bullshit.
happy days tauiwi.
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Enjoy your 5 minutes!
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youve had yours cant u hear the boos that means get off the stage tauiwi
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Haven't even started kupapa!
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you need to draw a long bow for the Kelly whanau to be direct descendants of Paeara but sweet as tauiwi.Now that we all know who paeara@ihug is the iwi can all rest easy cos we gonna nominate you all for our first line of defence against the pakeha government when they come -a-hunting for true Maori to patu!
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So you think you know who I am? What a load of rubbish; you don't even know your own whakapapa. When the pakeha government does come hunting for true Maori to patu; I know where you'll be; hiding behind them kupapa!
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I realise Pita has been writing the history books but did he really tell you that Teddy Emery wasn't a direct descendant of Paeara?
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I realise Pita has been writing the history books but did he really tell you that Teddy Emery wasn't a direct descendant of Paeara?
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are you fullas related to that Ned Kelly bloke across the ditch? if you are Aroha tauiwi aroha.[he got strung up you know]Anyway ring your bell when us Paeara descendants are close by you so we can get outta your way we gotta try and save ourselves so we can be the iwi for you fullas
Happy days behind the kuaha tauiwi.
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So what exactly are you smoking? It must be good shit for you to be so deluded kupapa!
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Hi paeara@ihug.co.nz here!
So let's move on from this little game of blame and defame kupapa. I've answered your Kelly question by telling you that you still don't know who I am; so take another guess. So since I answered your question why don't you answer a few of my simple questions:
1) Are you ashamed of your iwi fighting for what has been stolen from them?
2) Did Pita really tell you that Teddy Emery wasn't a direct descendant of Paeara?
3) Am I wrong to think that the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust Board represents the entire iwi including Taemaro? If so; why shouldn't I demand things from them? Aren't they a Trust Board? Don't they have a legal responsibility to keep their members informed? I've been asking the Trust Board simple questions since January 2008; but they refuse to response in a civil manner. I don't know why; but it doesn't look very good.
Paeara Family
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sorry for the delay tauiwi I was over at Facebook reading and looking at some interesting shit real interesting...
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Did someone finally post the videos of you hiding behind the pakeha government kupapa?
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you really ought to get te reo sorted out tauiwi
do you really know what kupapa means its...
if your'e going to use Maori terms do try to use them in the correct context...and yeah Facebook was mmm...taken on AIP signing day in Taemaro from not sure where...pretty good shots though...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kupapa
Kupapa is a Māori-language term used to describe Māori fighting for the Government in the New Zealand Land Wars of the nineteenth century . Also described as Queenites (from Queen Victoria) or Loyal Māori, their motives for fighting against other Māori were often based on traditional tribal rivalry, old scores or a pragmatic decision to benefit from the trade provided by settlers.
The term has also a modern usage in a derogatory sense to describe a Māori who is seen as being on the Pākehā side and acting against the interests of the Māori community.
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Thanks for the explaination above; I thought I used it correctly; perhaps your short course in Maori was a bit to short Kupapa?
"A Māori who is seen as being on the Pākehā side and acting against the interests of the Māori community."
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Hi paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!
So let's finally move on from this game of yours Kupapa. Why don't you answer a few of my simple questions:
1) Are you ashamed of your iwi fighting for what has been stolen from them?
2) Did Pita really tell you that Teddy Emery wasn't a direct descendant of Paeara?
3) Am I wrong to think that the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust Board represents the entire iwi including Taemaro? If so; why shouldn't I demand things from them? Aren't they a Trust Board? Don't they have a legal responsibility to keep their members informed? I've been asking the Trust Board simple questions since January 2008; but they refuse to response in a civil manner. I don't know why; but it doesn't look very good.
Paeara Family
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kupapa= v.i lie flat,remain quiet, become passive, be neutral in a quarrel,a term applied to the friendly Maoris during the wars of the sixties which is what Paeara was!
kupapa=adj. at a low level
kupapa= n.tetrapathaea tetandra a climbing plant,
a pattern of ornamental lattice-work for interior of a house.
again happy days tauiwi
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Tauiwi you dont represent all the people of Taemaro moreover most dont support you in the bay anyway.
Tauiwi u korero crap and u are slo-mo!
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A DICTIONARY OF THE MAORI LANGUAGE
H W WILLIAMS M.A
should you wish to check out te reo Maori.
Best there is tauiwi.
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You missed the other meaning Kupapa! Traitor! I prefer this definition it suits you better.
"A Māori who is seen as being on the Pākehā side and acting against the interests of the Māori community."
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Kupapa you dont represent anyone except yourself and once the wider iwi know all the facts you will be quickly forgotten and discarded.
By the way Paeara acted for the interests of the Maori community; he wasn't a sell out like you.
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Hi paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!
Let's move on from this game of yours Kupapa. Why don't you answer a few of my simple questions:
1) Are you ashamed of your iwi fighting for what has been stolen from them?
2) Did Pita really tell you that Teddy Emery wasn't a direct descendant of Paeara?
3) Am I wrong to think that the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust Board represents the entire iwi including Taemaro? If so; why shouldn't I demand things from them? Aren't they a Trust Board? Don't they have a legal responsibility to keep their members informed? I've been asking the Trust Board simple questions since January 2008; but they refuse to response in a civil manner. I don't know why; but it doesn't look very good.
Paeara Family
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thats it Tauiwi no more to say to you for I must get on with my studies.
When all the votes are counted it will define the future for the iwi and that is how it should be.
Those who have remained static in their thinking with little vision will surely be overcome by the tide of history that is surging in.
The time of hope expectation and a bright future for the mokopuna is almost upon us.
The past has already been lived the future awaits.
Noho ora mai tauiwi.
noho ora mai tauiwi.
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All the best with your studies Kupapa; I would call you by your real name but I don't know it. In getting an education try coming out from behind Pita's story book; travel the world; think for yourself; be free and become a true maori!
Although we disagree, we are whanau, all the best, arohanui, Paeara Family
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Kia Ora,
I've been asking the Kahukuraariki Trust Board the following questions since January 2008; but unfortunitely I haven't received a straight answer from any of them to date.
1) Pita Pangari (Peter Pangari) is not toto; he was adopted into our hapu and believes he had a vision/calling to continue leading our people in this claim. Additionally, Pita continues to claim both his natural and adopted hapu. Yes or No?
2) The Ngati Kahu ki Whangaroa Trust Broad is not a legal entity it is represented legally as the "Kahukuraariki Trust Board". How is it audited
and held accountable to the trust members?
3) How are the trust members vetted?
4) How often are trust board member elections held?
5) Can you please tell me when we will be voting on the government's offer? Also; when we do vote on their offer do the trust board plan to have the
voting register and the vote itself independently audited; by say E&Y? This will hopefully ensure that the result won't be contested; perhaps the
government might fund this?
Paeara Family
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Re: "Far greater numbers of this hapu oppose the'Petersen and co' view and stand firmly alongside the iwi."
I've heard and read this statement a few times. Do you actually have anything to prove what you say? Why not get the trust board to take it to the registered iwi and publish the result? Otherwise your statement is vacuous.
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Can someone please send me any financial spreadsheets, statements, minutes etc to paeara (at) ihug.co.nz?
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Re: "We know your game its dumb so go away tauiwi."
Why is asking a trust board to be accountable dumb?
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When all the audited votes are counted it will define the future for us.
Those who have remained selfish in their thinking with no vision will be overcome.
Hope, expectation and a bright future for the mokopuna has always been there.
The past has already been lived and should be respected not discarded; our future is out there so let's take it.
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I live in Kaikohe my mums whakapapa links me to both trust boards, infact all members of both trusts carry the same whakapapa I have tride many times prior to this to make contact with the mandated negotiators, by going up for meetings (that don't happen) by trying to contact via phone, email even to Office of Treaty Setlements 'no-'JOY' I wanted to see and consider the settlement for myself and my whanau
After the signing in princple I was finally able to have a look, it is very scarey, what is being given back? and to whom? Kahukuraariki have full right to lease knowing that Crown have a 50% right of money, the land wasn't settled it was gifted and finally, (some)land title has already been determined fee simple, and what whanau, organisations anywhere in NZ have government departments involved with their interests. My final coment, why have Ngati Aukiwa whanau been termed protestors, angry mob instead of seeing us as concerned benificiares to the signing and how many were there to tautoko I ask
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Kia ora Cuz (Wilfred Jnr), Uncle and Aunty and the many whanau from Taemaro and Waimahana
Gee, the NKK trust board and there stupid group of wannabes are going to get caught in all there lies, who do you think you are NKK? You thieves, the land that is being fought for (Stoney Creek Station) does not belong to NKK, Ngati Aukiwa doesn't want land that doesn't belong to them, they only want what is there’s.
Taemaro and Waimahana had the land taken from them you dumb eggs. Who are these other marae that are trying to steal something that is not their whenua. You have your own whenua if you don't have land to claim back from the government don't take what doesn't belong to you.
Wilfred Snr and Jnr are beneficiary owners from Waimahana and have more rights to the Stoney Creek Station than the other so called whanau marae. Get your own land back if you have any and stop stealing Ngati Aukiwa's land.
NKK you thieving mongrels you are an entity made from deceit and lies. When your deceit comes out by your own admission in documents from the government, I will be their to see your downfall.
You will all be shamed into recognising the true owners you thieves.
Kia kaha
Ngati Aukiwa supporter
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Kia Kaha Ngati Aukiwa
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Ownership of Stoney Creek is now in question pple Hemi Rua Paeara is the name on the Land Deed when it was taken by the pakeha government,It is also the name that Pita Pangari has used on the 116 claim, But Pita has lied about his whakapapa,to elevate himself as a claimant,
Now for the Trust Board setup by Pita under a mandate he receieved from the pple of Taemaro and other Marae including Waimahana ,First and foremost Pita never once told any land owners of Taemaro that the Trust Board he plan to setup with others would strip the owners of their rights as owners,never once did Pita or his legal Advisors say,that owners could not have a say to how their land was used, how do I know because I was the SEC for the team that took the kaupapa and mandate to our whanau at the Hui at Waitaruki,in 1997
and I still have the minutes and notes to all the meeting of that interim Team held
But first and foremost let me acknowledge Uncle Bully for his stubboness to not let go of his insight to maintain at all times the mana of his tupuna let me tell you all, thank God Uncle Bullys refusal to give his blessing too, that Hui for that I am extremely grateful for,because now the rightful owners will claim what my Tupuna Hemi Rua and all the other whanau mentioned in Hemi Rua.s claim all those many years ago and what they all died for.
The rightful owners will seek ownership as the mokopuna to all those Tupuna for Stoney Creek.And one of those mokopuna is Wilford Petersen and his whanau who have every right to be on that land at Stoney Creek because he and his siblings are owners of Stoney Creek, not the NgatiKakhu Ki Whangaroa Trust Board.
As for Pita my reason for leaving the proposed Trust Board Of Ngatikahu Ki Whangaroa Trust back in the late 1990s were that I asked your legal advisor Richard Hawke a question about the landowners rights (which included me)and his reply was he represents only Pita and from that moment I recognised that you Pita had duped all thoses pple and from there on I refuse to recognise your Trust Board in any concept,on the grounds that,
Pita you lied about my Tupuna HEMI RUA PAEARA and all the old pple no longer with us, in the whakapapa you yourself Pita made up and presented in your wai 116 claim
But little did you realise Pita that the old pple had passed the whakapapa down and now you are being challenged by Hemi Rua,s mokopuna,s and that in its self will now reflect on where you go too with the Trust Board
Futhermore I have seen comments on this site about Teddy Emery and others who have since passed on ,for what ever reasons you all want to speak about our Tupuna, BE AWARE it has its costs as well.
Another corection also Richard Hawke and his Whanau did not vote for the mandate at Waitaruki in fact he withdrew from the meeting,And the endorsement came from the Kuia and kuamatua who were there on the day
On knowledge passed on by Ted Emery yes there are allegations that Pita stole the information that was written down in a book, that book has never been returned by Pita even though he was seen with the book by one of Pita,s own whanau,when the book disappeared Pita denies taking the Book but the person (a young man at the time,Pita knows who he is ) whose saw Pita with the book has step up to the mark and challenged Pita.Funny thing though the book went missing when Pita left and has not been seen since,Tell me why would a young man want such a book that was of no use to him.The young man only found out the important of that book after it went missing and he got the blame for the book been lost,And this young man has suffered since, pple can come to their own conclusion
And another thing Uncle Bully had been talking with Peter about TAEMARO and Stoney Creek long before Peter started the research for wai 116 claim application, you pple need to get you facts right,for alot of the pple who were there at the very beginning excluding Uncle Bully from the very onset of Pita,s claim is rubbish
Well thats it from me and Pita you have alot of explaining to do to me
Marie Paul
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Actually it has been the highlight of my day to come here and read all these (sometimes hilarious) comments about Taemaro and all the people involved with that whenua. At the same time, it is very revealing as to how many people actually know what they are talking about when referring to Taemaro and Waimahana and the people who once were the owners of that whenua. Too many opportunitists jumped on board when the Treaty claim first began back in 1985, 1997 and right up to this day. The true owners of the whenua will be the victors at the end of the day. If you don't own it, then you shouldn't be even thinking of trying to claim it. The true owners of that whenua know who they are. If you are not an owner, then do the right thing and buzz off. Don't try to claim something that does not belong to you. Let the true owners (people of Taemaro and Waimahana) have what belongs to them.
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Also, for the other Marae who have willingly allowed themselves to take part in the possessing of whenua belonging to Taemaro and Waimahana - do the right thing and move on. You do not whakapapa back to Taemaro as far as the whenua is concerned. Having a common ancestor like Kahukuraariki does not entitle you to uplift taonga belonging to other marae. Sharing in the carve up of whanaunga from another marae is disgraceful. You might have been ignorant from the start but by now you know that you should not be participating in a Treaty claim that deprives and steals the whenua belonging to whanaunga from another marae. Shame on you! Leave while you still have a shred of decency left in your big toe or toes.
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Hi paeara@ihug.co.nz here!!!
I've created a web site which has all of the funding payments made by OTS to NKKWTB; it also details NKKWTB's creative expense claims. Interestingly, of the $253,000 paid to date to the NKKWTB; there seems to be about $43,000 unaccounted for.
http://www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com
Regards, Paeara Family
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Hi paeara@ihug.co.nz here!!!
I've created a web site which has all of the funding payments made by OTS to NKKWTB; it also details NKKWTB's creative expense claims. Interestingly, of the $253,000 paid to date to the NKKWTB; there seems to be about $43,000 unaccounted for.
http://www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com
Regards, Paeara Family
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kiora whanau. Maybe this place is not the place to talk about our troubles. Maybe we should come away from this site and meet with each other at a hui and talk these things through face to face. I don't see how this site helps the situation. this website is purely for the benefit of others not ourselves. The makers of this site get a lot of information for free and you don't even know who they are or their interest in your particular problem. Be careful what you say in here because some of the worst types come in here posing as whanau and they comment about things that they don't know anything about. Let us all leave these kind of sites and talk to each other face to face.
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The reason this site exists is because the NKKWTB refused to talk openly; have held hui in private and have had private discussions with the Government (OTS). The have also claimed expenses that aren't just and produce minutes from huis months after the event which don't reflect the iwi view.
As well as being lead by dictorial/overbearing chairpersons who force their agendas and beliefs on our iwi.
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I am aware of what you are saying and agree that the NKKWT Board should have been upfront and honest with the whanau. What I meant about coming to these sites is that they only serve to bolster the credibility of this site and give the impression that this site has something worthwhile to offer the people of our rohe. It serves to make money from this site and our problems, nothing more. I am not from NKKW nor do I support it. I just thought that the rest of us can meet somewhere else to talk these things through instead of here. I agree the Trust board and its supporters have done things in secret for far too long and they are reaping the results of their lack of consultation and integrity. Kia ora for now
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Point taken; perhaps we could setup a registered iwi members only website; which would have closed iwi only discussion groups and voting on iwi issues? We could get paeara@ihug.co.nz to set it up on www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com? What do you think?
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Hi paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!!!
I'm more than happy to do this on our website (www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com); anything that promotes open and frank discussion between our entire iwi is good; wherever they are in the world.
It should only take a few weeks to get this up and running if the iwi wants it.
Regards, Paeara Family
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i think you have made a great suggestion Paeara.ihug. You set it up and then let us know on your website, and you will find a lot of the whanau will come to it. Till then, kia ora.
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I think it is worthwhile noting that the growing concern among grassroots whanau of Taemaro and Waimahana should be enough to indicate to the NKKW Trust board, and its supporters that dissension is rife among the whanau and they can no longer continue taking care of business as they please. It is time to front up to the whanau and accept that there is a strong push for change as far the NKKW Trust board and its objectives are concerned. They can gracefully listen to the people and move on, or continue to be the object of scorn and opposition which will ultimately lead in their ejection from the whole process. Let's hope we can do this with dignity.
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Hi paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!!!
I'll start working on it as soon as I can; if anyone has any suggestions on what it should look like or how it should work then please feel free to send me an email at paeara@ihug.co.nz; or just visit www.ngatikahukiwhangaparoa.com to see how I've progressed.
Regards, Paeara Family
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The NKKW trust board will have to fight for every little inch of whenua of our people and our marae. You had many years to do right by the people of our marae (Taemaro and Waimahana) but you were a false friend. Not only had you already begun plans to remove the control of our whenua from us as far back as the early 90s but you did it without conscience. For that, you are paying the price. Your days are numbered. Get out while you still have a shred of dingity left and leave our whenua alone. Nobody wants you in our affairs anymore. Go and latch onto some other marae who you will lead like lambs to the slaughter, like you did us. Leave by the way you came and close this door of misadventure and treachery behind you.
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Time for the Ngatikahu Ki Whangaroa Trust board to be removed from the Treaty process. Time for change. Time for you landgrabbers to move on. We don't want you in our Treaty claim.
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Could all the real landowners of Stoney Creek farm please stand up and the other landgrabbers(you know who you are and I don't mean Bully and his whanau, but the rest of you freeloaders0 go and get real jobs instead of accessing funding to feather your own nests. Did any of the people of Taemaro or Waimahana get any of the tens of thousands of dollars you applied for from OTS? Of course not, it all went into your pockets. Won't it be interesting when they open the books and see who spent all the money? Some of you will have to leave the country or else you will spending time in jail instead of thieving off your relis
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By landgrabbers I mean people who cannot whakapapa back to Taemaro or Waimahana. I mean the people who are now trying to steal it from their relis. shame on you and may you get a million boils on your scabby bums the lot of you. I wonder where all that money went to aye? Maybe to put someones kid through school or to concrete someones driveway. Maybe to go for a trip to Aussie? The real question is which Marae committee member has been helping himself/herself to funding that was supposed to be spent on building their marae? food for thought aye? Anyone noticed a hive of activity lately at a certain marae that hasnt been built yet? Twenty years is an awful long time to be holding onto funds for the marae when no marae is sitting there, aint it? Aue whats that sound? Sounds like someone packing them bags in a big hurry and flying to Oz.
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Great to hear that after all these years someone has finally been able to access the financial statement of the Ngatikahu Ki Whangaroa Trust.
Have they ever produced one, if so when. Which trustees recieved it, when, which marae/hapu was given a copy. Is it that the trustees were not and are still not doing their job. Or is it that Office of Treaty Settlements has been to. preoccuppied with reaching the milestones. W
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There are a lot of people/whanau/hapu who abhor the idea of being told by government and the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa trustes/negotiators/advisers that we whananu/hapua are being forced to become beneficiaries of Ngati Aukiwa hapu of the Stoney Creek Station. This is not only about Ngati Aukiwa losing it's land to non decendents,it is also about displacing whananu/hapu with regade to tupuna whenua. We believe that Ngati Aukiwa hapu on the Stoney Creek Block are doing a thankless job for many ungrateful people. Keep up the good work, there are many other hapu out there wishing they had the committment of some of their people to do the same
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Hi paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!!!
Well after three and a half months I've finally got all of the NKKWTB mandate documentation from OTS; 190 odd documents. I'll put them up on www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com website as soon as I can.
Regards, Paeara Family
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Hi paeara (at) ihug.co.nz here!!!
Well after three and a half months I've finally got all of the NKKWTB mandate documentation from OTS; 190 odd documents. I'll put them up on www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com website as soon as I can.
Regards, Paeara Family
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I hear the NKKW Trust board are pushing ahead with their claim. They still haven't got the message that they are thieving off us. Even worse, there are whanau who now tautoko Pita Pangari and his merry band of thieves. Will all the trustees for the NKKW Trust board and their affiliated marae committees all stand up please and explain why they think they have the right to pilfer what belongs to the people of Taimaro/Waimahana? Our tupuna would roll over in their graves if they knew that their descendants were being taken to the cleaners (again) by landsharks and money grubbers pretending to be whanau and trustees/administrators of our whenua. You won't be able to hide behind your committees and trustboards forever - one day you will have to fess up to what you are doing and face the people who you plan to dispossess. Don't even stand on public television and spout off about defending anything Maori, because thieving from your own whanaunga, says it all.
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Whatever your gender, it was a woman who gave birth to you, no matter how impressed you are with yourself. Without that woman you would never of been born. Kahukuraaiki was a female. Stop hiding behind trees.
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I hear the first time the self professed landlord visited to take possession of what he arrogantly thought was his, on the Stoneycreek he was told in no uncertain terms where where to go.
Pita,s devious scurrilous behaviour throughout the entire claim is coming home to roost. I hear he is writing a book. The entire book will undoubtedly be the proof of his deceitfulnature. Fancy him mongrelizing descendants whakapapa. One has to question someones pathetic attempt at being an expert on Hazels whakapapa. Leave them make an idiot of themselves, don't even give them the time of day Hazel and whanau. An empty drums makes a lot of noise, doesn't mean that it makes any sense.
Kia ora to Paeara for to long the trust board and it's chairperson whose arrogant attitude, enhanced by the lawyer stifling of information to us as claimants,has bought the claim to where it is today. To those of you who stand in ignorant judgement of the peterson whanau and all the other whanau at Stonycreek station I say to you ignorance is bliss, incorrect statements stick around.
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If Pita is writing a book we as descendants should make enquiries as to whether or not we as descendants agree to him usuing our tupuna names in any written audio form by Pita. That the material collected over the years throughout the claimis able to be used without theconsent of the descendants of our tupuna. He has already made unsubstatiated changes, altered whakapapa,stolen documents to name a few. Think about all the lies verbal, written since the very begining, i.e.written document statsing he had never written the word Ngatikahu in the broken form. ALL LIES AYE PITA see 2nd doc to Koro Wetere.
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ae ko te tangata te mea nui. so where will they stand if not on the whenua. no matter where you live whenua is imperative, even if you take to the sea.let us know why else was there a claim if not for the whenua.
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what have you done for your hapu that the second step on the rung. Iwi comes next, now then what have you done for your iwi. land reseach, met with the kaumatua of direct descent, walked the whenua walked the talk. we have seen what bully and other old fullas have done unfortunately for you your ignorance says it all, sitting down writing rubbish like yours is a luxury they don't have time to do. Anyway they are of a different calibre to people like you kanohi kite kanohi is what they believe in not through the back door as is the style of many of those you support in leading yous. Tautoko bully, dobin hazel and all the whanau kia kaha
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thank goodnes for your information paeara whanau.Is it true the trust board run out of money and had to leave their office in mangonui. whats the haps, can someone korero mai
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hey man where shall i start, heard all about it.
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Kahukura ariki is often used to exploit the people of Taimaro. By using Kahukura ariki, the proponents of the Ngatikahu Ki Whangaroa Trust board had obliterated all the tupuna in-between. Kahukura ariki goes back 20 generations. After her, came many of our tupuna, who went on to have hapu with their own area of whenua. The people of Taimaro had their own area of whenua taken from them - and them alone - not anyone else. Wilfred Peterson and others have fought a lone battle to have that whenua returned, but freeloaders like the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust board (which is made up of 5 Marae committees and the Kahukura Ariki Trust)have tried to muscle in on whenua that they don't own, and can never whakapapa back to - UNLESS of course - they quote Kahukura ariki. What is so disgusting, is that these same marae (three in particular) have never offered up their own whenua or taonga to the people of Taimaro. They keep it for themselves while pillaging what belongs to US. In the 1800s it was the Crown that deceitfully stole our whenua, but now it is our own whanaunga hiding behind the Ngatikahu Ki Whangaroa trust board, who are doing it to us. You will never win. Justice always has a way of being done, no matter how crafty and dishonest you are.
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As for all you MEN who think that you have the right to stand over the rest of us - Kahukura ariki is where you descend from, and it is your own fault if you spend half your time thinking your are superior to any of the women in your rohe. I am not speaking about Uncle Wilfred or the Peterson whanau, I am talking about all you big shots that have come on-board to shore up support for the Ngatikahu Ki Whaingaroa trust board and its disgraceful attempts at a landgrab. You men, who think you are the ones who carry the mana of our rohe? Since when did any of you stand up for the people of Taimaro, when you knew that the NKKW Trust board was ripping it away from its original owners? Since when? You all sat back and watched as Pita Pangari and his band of thieves set about uplifting our whenua from us and you did nothing about it. Don't start trying to muscle your way into the picture now or trying to undermine Wilfred and his whanau. YOu had your chance to do something and you sat back and DID NOTHING. Now you want to muscle your way in and take control of Stoney Creek Farm and all the lands that belonged to our hapu. You, the ones who sat back and did nothing - suddenly you want to BE SOMETHING. You had your chance - but you sat idly by while the NKKW trust board helped itself to funding to pry our taonga from us.,The worst of all is that you descend back to Taimaro, and here you are, gifting our whenua to your mates on the NKKW Trust board. You know who you are. Do yourself a favor and save yourself the embarassment of being chastised on public television for your shameless landgrabbing.
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And oh yes, you heard that right. The whole of Taitokerau and New Zealand will know exactly what you landgrabbers have done and how you used the system to rip away our taonga from us. Don't think that you will get away with this without people knowing exactly what you have done. Time to take off the masks and see what kind of mettle you are made of. If you can't stand the exposure, then get lost and leave our whenua to us - otherwise, be prepared to be publicly shamed for your disgraceful actions.
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Kahukura ariki is often used to exploit the people of Taimaro. By using Kahukura ariki, the proponents of the Ngatikahu Ki Whangaroa Trust board have obliterated all the tupuna in-between. Kahukura ariki goes back 20 generations. After her, came many of our tupuna, who went on to have hapu with their own area of whenua. The people of Taimaro had their own area of whenua too and it was taken from them - and them alone - not anyone else. Wilfred Peterson and others have fought a lone battle to have that whenua returned, but freeloaders like the Ngatikahu ki Whangaroa Trust board (which is made up of 5 Marae committees and its corporate arm - the Kahukura Ariki Trust)have tried to muscle in on whenua that they don't own, and can never whakapapa back to - UNLESS of course - they quote Kahukura ariki. What is so disgusting, is that these same marae (three in particular) have never offered up their own whenua or taonga to the people of Taimaro. They keep it for themselves while pillaging what belongs to US. I don't mean all of the people from these other marae - I mean, specifically the representatives on their marae committees who represent the NKKW Trust. In the 1800s it was the Crown that deceitfully stole our whenua, but now it is our own whanaunga hiding behind the Ngatikahu Ki Whangaroa trust board, who are doing it to us. You will never win. Don't you know the game is up?
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stop thieving from your whanaunga
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dont get what you typed or said
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Ko wai nga uri patata o Karani Te Aukiwa
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Like many others, the lack of work opportunities at home forced me and my sibblings to live far from our beloved bays, and it saddens me to see and hear of the disharmony between our whanau. For those of us who save so that we can make the long trek home during the odd Christmas break haven't aligned ourselves with either side so we feel the mamae of both the opposing family groups. I believe that this qualifies me to put forward an impartial view of the current issue.
There is no disputing that that there are past injustices that must be addressed.
There are definite benefits for our lands and our people if a "settlement" was agreed to with the crown.
The problem is with ourselves. Before we can even enter into any negotiations with an organisation "outside" of our iwi, it would make our bargaining position that much stronger if we present a united front, after all we are looking for the best possible outcome for our whanau, hapu and iwi.
I hear much talk about our illusrious tupuna and can only guess as to their vision for us, their descendants, and I don't believe that what is happening now would have figured in their plans.
Before embarking on a new voyage we must have a common goal/vision, anything that will promote economic and educative growth and sustainability, social and political awareness and sensitivity, and cultural revitalisation, all of which if achieved will advance the mana of the collective. There is no room on board for egos'.
The stars that we should navigate by in the pursuit of our vision are the values of our ancestors, they being- 'Aroha, Whakapono, Kotahitanga, Tumanako.' If we honour these valves and are committed to practicing them, only then can we truly face the crown and negotiate a fair deal. Each party member,on both sides of this unfortunate dispute must look into their hearts and say 'My actions align with these values!'then we will paddling in the same direction.
I beleive that 'the food of the chievies is koorero' so let our kaumatua, kuia, pakeke and rangatahi talk, but let the talk be informed, open and respectful. I am sure that there are many like myself who are keen to have this matter sorted but let's not be hastie in agreeing to a proposal put forward by a group(the Crown) who historically have never had our interests' at heart, be cautious.
Noreira e te iwi, ma te Atua tatou e manaki, e tiaki i nga waa katoa.
na Peter.
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kia ora Peter for your korero. It is very heartwarming to know that whanau like yourself save to come back for the holidays each year and we hope you keep coming home to Aotearoa each summer.
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I've added the latest funding details from OTS to the NKKWTB onto our website (www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com). Total claimed and received to date by the NKKWTB is $323,000 with another $50,000 claimed but not received yet. Please visit the website above to read the NKKWTB's excessive expense claims and bank statements.
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I've added the latest funding details from OTS to the NKKWTB onto our website (www.ngatikahukiwhangaroa.com). Total claimed and received to date by the NKKWTB is $403,000. Please visit the website above for the facts around this claim.
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